“China Will Only Respond to Strength”

Sean Hannity fears for the way forward for America and the world. And he’s written his first e book in ten years as a warning: “Dwell Free Or Die: America (and the World) on the Brink.”

On this episode, we sit down collectively to debate.

That is American Thought Leaders ????????, and I’m Jan Jekielek.

Jan Jekielek:  Sean Hannity, such a pleasure to have you ever on American Thought Leaders.

Sean Hannity:   Jan, thanks and I used to be telling you off-air I learn the Epoch Instances day by day. I nonetheless like laborious papers. I delivered the Lengthy Island Press Information Day and the New York Day by day Information after I was rising up, at completely different occasions. And I nonetheless prefer to seize that paper in my hand, however I get extra printed variations of tales than ever earlier than. However, you guys have carried out a tremendous job and actually I believe there’s such a void in media, particularly newspapers. They slant so solidly a method that there’s only a few papers that I can actually really feel that I can depend on, and the Epoch Instances is one.

Mr. Jekielek:   Actually admire these sort phrases and we admire you additionally citing the paper on the present and so forth.

Mr. Hannity:   Thanks. Effectively, you deserve it. And I do know you’re working laborious. It’s wonderful, isn’t it that the media, for my part, has gotten so corrupt, so abusively biased, so one-sided? I’ll provide you with only a few fast examples, in the event you don’t thoughts, however how do they declare that they care about obstruction of justice, however they didn’t care about Hillary’s subpoenaed emails and didn’t care about BleachBit and didn’t care about hammers?

And anyone that watches this American Thought Leaders present or reads The Epoch Instances would know that if it was a conservative, they’d be in large bother. Strive deleting subpoenaed emails. That’s not going to work out or finish properly for you.

They care about Russia collusion, however they ignored Hillary Clinton’s purchased and paid for Russian file, that was then used, unverified, to spy on a presidential candidate and his transition crew and deep into the presidency. They pushed the Russian conspiracy principle that we now know the FBI knew—even earlier than the primary FISA utility in August of 2016—was unverified. They knew for positive that it was debunked in January of 2017, when the sub-source of Christopher Steele that he used was saying, “Oh, no, none of that is actual. That was all bar discuss.” However they nonetheless drag the nation via this.

They care about quid professional quos with Ukraine, however they didn’t care about Joe Biden on tape saying, you’re not getting a billion US taxpayer {dollars} until you fireplace this specific prosecutor that’s investigating my son who has zero expertise.

[Hunter Biden] went on Good Morning America, best interview of a 49-year-old man ever.

“Do you’ve got any expertise in oil?”







“No, none.”

“Any background that will entitle you to make hundreds of thousands of {dollars} to take a seat on a board?”

“No, not likely.”

“Why do you suppose you bought the job?”

“I don’t know.”

“Perhaps as a result of your father, the Vice President, was answerable for Ukraine coverage?”

Then he goes, “Yeah, most likely. That’s most likely it.”

But they made an enormous deal a few name with [Ukrainian President] Zelensky and President Trump. In any case of that that they put the nation via, there was just one truth witness. Each different witness [was a] rumour or opinion witness.

And what did the very fact witness say? “Effectively, I talked to the President.” “Did he say he wished something from Ukraine?” He mentioned, “No, no quid professional quo. … I simply don’t need them to be corrupt.’” None by any means.

And if you simply stand again and you’re taking these examples in, it’s breathtaking hypocrisy. After which the media that makes such an enormous deal and so they say these items are necessary—Russia collusion is necessary, obstruction of justice is necessary, can’t have Russian interference [is] necessary, can’t have quid professional quos—they only ignore their facet.

In order that they’re actually propagandists, statists, no higher than the previous Soviet Union’s Pravda. They lie. They smear. They slander. They libel. They besmirch. They’re concerned in day by day character assassination. They’ve a cultish psychosis and hatred in direction of all issues Donald Trump, and people are the occasions we’re dwelling in.

And now we acquired an election in 82 days, and now we have probably the most radical ticket within the historical past of this nation that’s now brazenly advancing the very insurance policies which are the antithesis of these insurance policies that made this nation nice. And that’s what I acknowledged a 12 months in the past. I mentioned, that is going to be a tipping level election. We’ll lose the nation. If their said insurance policies are applied, the USA, actually the whole lot will get turned on its head.

And as I’ve it, the fourth chapter of the e book [is] “Socialism: A Historical past of Failure.” It’s by no means labored. It doesn’t matter what title it’s given, it doesn’t matter what nation it’s been tried in, it doesn’t work. It is not going to work right here. The guarantees that the whole lot goes to be free won’t ever be fulfilled. It’s going to result in poverty, it should result in distress, and it’ll result in a lack of freedoms. That’s the finish outcome each time.

We’re going to both dwell free and stand by the rules of restricted authorities, larger freedom, that our rights come from God, not from authorities, and freedom and threat and reward and capitalism, or we’ll go down the hellhole that’s socialism, as a result of that’s what’s at stake in simply 82 days.

Mr. Jekielek:   It’s a exceptional e book that you’ve, “Dwell Free Or Die,” and truly, you talked about it’s not simply America on the brink, in your view, but it surely’s additionally the world. And I need to ask you about that. However earlier than I do this, you’ve got this wonderful stat in right here within the e book. You mentioned 43% of Individuals total say socialism can be a great factor. However the factor that caught me was 51% say it’s a nasty factor. So meaning 49% received’t say it’s a nasty factor. That’s astounding. And the way did we get right here?

Mr. Hannity:   They’ve this enchantment. Look Jan, I virtually can perceive it. It’s on paper, we’ll put all of our stuff in an enormous pot, and we’ll give to every based on their want, from every based on their skill, proper? Various types of socialism, communism, redistributionism, statism even.

That is what they’re promising. They’re promising that you’ll get pre-Ok via faculty schooling. They’re promising mortgage forgiveness for colleges. They’re promising a assured authorities job at a assured wage with a assured authorities trip, assured authorities wholesome meals. They’re guaranteeing authorities well being care, Medicare for All, or increasing Obamacare—which is a catastrophe. And you then’re going to have assured retirement. Okay, that’s a variety of ensures.

And so they’re predicating it on this perception that we’re going to do it, and in 10 years, we’re going to abolish the lifeblood of the world’s financial system: oil, gasoline, and coal. Okay. Now, that’s the dumbest determination I’ve ever heard.

These are lofty concepts… And I particularly put that chapter on socialism after the Democrats’ agenda and what they’re providing. I name it fantasy land. So they provide all these items. So perhaps there’s a psychological part. “Ah, I’ll by no means have to fret about something ever once more for the remainder of my life. I’ll have government-ensured the whole lot. No extra stress, no extra strain.”

I truly suppose there’s a wholesome stress that makes you dig deep. The phrase schooling from the Latin means educare, to deliver forth from inside, the place pure rights from God have been endowed by not the factor, Jan, you recognize the factor, however God, the Creator of the whole lot. [If] folks don’t get that reference, you’re not following the information.

To deliver forth from inside says loads, means it’s already there. And that matches in with our mannequin, rights don’t come from authorities, they arrive from God. So each man, girl, and youngster I consider has God-given items. Now human beings will be inclined in direction of good and evil, separate argument. So if we consider that, and the federal government goes to ensure all of those great issues. In case you have no strain, you’re not going to dig deep and discover what your items are. You received’t have any want. Every thing’s taken care of anyway.

We’ll principally make America a bunch of belief fund residents. And I’ve by no means met many belief fund youngsters that it labored out properly for. … I do know folks that have cash that don’t give their youngsters as a lot as they want. And so they say, “You’ve acquired to purchase your home, you’ve acquired to purchase your automobile, you’ve acquired to pay your hire.” After which the child is like, “Effectively, why don’t you do it?” “As a result of it’s your life and I’m not going to take dwelling away from you.”

So anyway, the federal government guarantees all this. I ask all people, “How’s authorities’s observe report been to date?” As a result of I take a look at New York Metropolis, and I take a look at Chicago, and I take a look at Seattle and Portland, LA and San Francisco, how are they doing on probably the most basic function that authorities ought to have by way of legislation and order, safety and security? Okay, if I used to be a instructor, I’d give them an F. They’re failing at a spectacular degree.

Subsequent most necessary factor, how are they doing with the schooling of our youngsters? Effectively, the USA of America spends extra per capita than another nation within the industrialized world. And we are available in like 37th to 40th relying on if it’s proficiency in studying or math. There are literally, Jan, 13 public excessive colleges within the metropolis of Baltimore. Baltimore occurs to be the third highest per capita spending on the planet per pupil. 13. It’s not a quiz. It’s not a check query. I ask your entire viewers what share of these youngsters in these 13 public excessive colleges do you consider are proficient in math? We’ll provide you with a couple of Jeopardy seconds. Dah dah dah dah dah. {Jeopardy sound impact} Okay. Now, the reply is: there’s not one youngster. Not one. Not one youngster in 13 excessive colleges.

What do all these cities have in frequent? They’ve been run by liberal Democrats for many years, proper?

How did that Obamacare factor work out? Effectively, hundreds of thousands misplaced their medical doctors. That’s not what they promised. Hundreds of thousands misplaced their plans. And all people on common throughout the nation is paying about 200% extra. We’re not saving $2500 per household per 12 months for higher care. And there’s virtually 40% of the nation that has just one Biden Obamacare trade possibility.

So these are their guarantees. I’ll add a pair extra issues. Final time, Jan, that I checked Social Safety and Medicare, they have been going bankrupt. Do you do not forget that? I don’t know when’s the final time you checked, however we’re headed on a trajectory that we’re not going to come up with the money for to pay for it. By the best way, they have been supposed to place that cash in a lockbox, as they instructed us. That cash has been squandered. It’s been spent. They raided it, they spent it. The place I grew up, we might name that stealing as a result of they made a promise.

So now they failed in each main promise they’ve made, however we’re going to consider this new set of guarantees? And now we’re going to financial institution on them having a 100% observe report as a result of what’s going to occur once we’re now depending on vitality once more? We’re now vitality unbiased due to Donald Trump’s insurance policies for the primary time in 75 years. We’re the world’s largest producer of vitality in over 75 years. How are we going to tug this off? It’s 94 trillion for the Inexperienced New Deal. It’s 52 trillion for Medicare for All or growth of Obamacare. We can’t afford it. Let me provide the basic math. We solely absorb Four to 4.5 trillion {dollars} a 12 months. Over 10 years, we’re near 50 million {dollars}. Wow. Okay, in order that wouldn’t even pay for Medicare for All. And that’s with no protection spending. Zero. Not one of the different governmental applications are funded and you continue to come up, properly, about two-thirds of the cash quick primarily based on the estimates.

It’s a fantasy, it’s a lie, it’s false safety, and it’ll finish badly as socialism at all times ends badly. It begins out with the good guarantees. “We’ll take the cash from these evil, wealthy folks, and we’ll redistribute it.”

That’s not what has made America nice. America’s goodness and greatness is the idea that we’re endowed by our Creator. We’ve got abilities from that Creator. We dig deep and discover these abilities. We create items and providers that individuals need, want, and need. And guess what? Whereas we’re serving our fellow man, we’re additionally paying our mortgage and shopping for a automobile, as these folks that create the vehicles and construct the house are servicing us. And so there’s by no means been a system ever designed by man that’s higher. You present me one, I’ll take a look at it. I’ve not seen it.

My pal Barry Farber, one of many nice pioneers of discuss radio would at all times say, “There’s by no means been a rustic within the historical past of mankind, not excellent, however that has collected extra energy, abused it lower than this one.” And I add, “There’s by no means been a rustic within the historical past of mankind, that has collected extra energy, abused it much less, and used the ability to advance the human situation than this nation.”

I do know it’s not in style now to speak about American goodness, American greatness, American exceptionalism. But it surely’s actual, and that defines who we’re as a folks. We’re an incredible, good folks, and freedom and liberty and capitalism and threat and reward and innovation and invention has made us nice.

So, the “Or Die” half [of my title] is, we’re going to fall for the lie. [Kamala Harris] received’t even provide you with your individual personal insurance coverage possibility. I assumed liberals have been pro-choice. [Biden and Harris] each need to eliminate fracking. They each need to purchase into this Inexperienced New Deal. Biden’s pledging trillions.

It’s the greatest selection election, Jan, in our life. It’s easy. Just about each difficulty, you’re both going to consider in a lot, a lot increased taxes or decrease taxes, extra bureaucratic pink tape or wiping it out like Donald Trump has been doing. You’re going to need activists on the courtroom, they’ll provide you with that. Or Donald Trump offers you constitutionalists, those who revere the Structure. It’s about open borders, amnesty, changing into the Sanctuary States of America versus. Safe borders doesn’t imply we’re closing off from the world, however we get to vet folks that come to this nation, make it possible for they don’t have radical ties, make it possible for they’re wholesome earlier than they enter our household. It comes all the way down to vitality independence. That’s key. I can’t think about going again to vitality dependence. That’s a nasty thought. That’s not good for nationwide safety both. So, higher commerce offers, higher international coverage. It’s all on the road.

That “Or Die” half is that if by some means the media is ready to persuade to us—and so they’ll be the biggest donors to Biden and Kamala—to reject what has been the best, most profitable system of governance with the best wealth creation within the historical past of mankind. That’s us. That’s who we’re. Are we going to remain the course or are we going to go backwards?

Mr. Jekielek:   So Sean, I need to get into “the World” half in your title as a result of our viewers know that I’m truly Canadian and most of them know I’m additionally an American exceptionalist. I’ve had my eye on China for about 20 years. And after I noticed “the World on the Brink” I used to be, after all, I used to be considering of China, however what have been you considering?

Mr. Hannity:   Effectively, China’s an enormous a part of it, particularly now what they did to the world. Essentially the most sinister a part of all that they did right here, to me, is that they prevented folks in Wuhan province from flying out of Wuhan province to another a part of China. They put their very own journey ban in impact, and so they prevented folks from the remainder of China to fly into Wuhan. However they let Wuhan province residents journey the globe, and you would come from wherever, you would land in Wuhan province. That tells you the whole lot you’ll want to learn about how egocentric they have been.

The world would have united the world’s finest scientists, researchers, medical professionals, we might have descended upon China to comprise this factor—the invisible enemy the President calls it—instantly, had they only sought assist. All people would have been all-hands-on-deck, and so they allowed this to occur.

For my part, I maintain them accountable. And for the senators, [for] this most up-to-date reduction bundle to attempt to give them legal responsibility safety is madness. They don’t deserve it. And households needs to be compensated for what they allowed to have occur. They didn’t create the virus, however they allowed the unfold of the virus. They didn’t inform the world the reality.

Right here’s the broader image, although. What I used to be occupied with [when I wrote] “America and the world.” My father fought in World Conflict II. He grew up very poor. My mother grew up very poor. My 4 grandparents all got here from Eire, all of them very poor. My mother grew up within the South Bronx, was a jail guard, labored 16 hour shifts virtually my complete life rising up. My dad labored as a waiter on the weekend, household courtroom probation throughout the week. However when he was 18 or thereabouts, he signed up, he served 4 years within the Pacific in World Conflict II, didn’t notably prefer it.

However in the event you take a look at the final century alone. Let’s simply isolate the final century. Over 100 million human souls if you add all of it up. Mao, the revolution, China, Russia, Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, fascism, [Hideki] Tojo, Japan, the killing fields, Cambodia, over 100 million souls killed in these governmental methods.

It’s the USA of America, we beat again the forces of fascism. We beat again the forces of Nazism and Imperial Japan and communism and extra lately, we lead the world on this battle towards radical Islamism. And we paid blood, sweat, tears, monetary burden. That’s all on us. We take it on, and we shield the world. So, so goes America, Jan, so goes the world.

And we’d like a powerful America. And we’d like a mighty navy to cope with the true evil, the true hazard that exists on the planet. And to disclaim that actuality or that truth is past naive.

It’s wonderful as a result of there’s by no means been a president that has been a more in-depth ally, pal to Israel. Extra lately, we noticed the president’s actions, you’re talking of China, with Hong Kong. I believe that what was inconceivable 5 years in the past is now occurring. You see this alliance that has emerged with Jordan and Egypt and Israel and the USA and the Saudis and the Emirates. That is all historic stuff. However the alignment actually comes towards Iranian hegemony within the area.

China and Iran and Russia [are] the three actual, clear, current risks to the world, I consider, that we’ve acquired to maintain our eye on probably the most. And for all these nations that will by no means get alongside to unite as they’ve in ways in which I do know that many different folks don’t know, it’s wonderful progress for the nice that I hope we construct upon.

If Iran ever will get a nuclear weapon, they’ll use it. That’s my prediction. That may’t occur.

Mr. Jekielek:   Yeah. This normalization of the relations between Israel and the UAE, exceptional. And secondly, we even have the primary biting sanctions towards China, towards these human rights abuses in Xinjiang and what Hong Kong is doing, basically on the behest of the Chinese language Communist Get together. We haven’t seen something like this earlier than.

Mr. Hannity:   It’s fascinating as a result of President Trump ran as any individual who doesn’t need to become involved in international entanglements. To begin with, vitality independence from a geo-political, strategic vantage level, the Strait of Hormuz, as a lot as we don’t just like the Iranians, you bought what? 40 miles, 44 miles that you just acquired to sneak via these slim straits and a 3rd of the world’s oil provide passes via there. And also you see what the Iranians every now and then, they do some saber-rattling. We don’t have to fret in regards to the Strait of Hormuz anymore, as a result of we’re vitality unbiased. Now, doesn’t imply we’re going to allow them to get away with it if they’re stopping the free circulation of oil at market costs, however the truth that we don’t need to become involved offers us the flexibility and adaptability that we in any other case didn’t have.

So far as China goes, I believe China will solely reply to power. I believe they’ve contempt for American weak point. And to be trustworthy, I don’t suppose Joe Biden is … Bodily, I see him. He seems to be frail. He seems to be weak to me. He clearly doesn’t appear, you recognize, one flub after one other, he form of appears out of it. I believe it is a actual query that the nation higher ask itself. Who’s Kamala Harris? I’ve been exposing [her], now that we all know she’s the VP. I simply don’t suppose that Joe has the power, the stamina, the psychological alertness and acuity to tackle the toughest job on the planet at a time the place it issues, particularly on the world stage.

This interview has been edited for readability and brevity. 


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